New Order
Salle du Baron, Orleans, France
13 December 1985
source: Hooky's rubbish bin (the "stash" tapes)
1st generation dub of cassette master (if not *the* master...)
analogloyalist mastering August 2012
At long last I'm starting to fix up and free a stash of gigs - which
first saw the light (heh) in 2004 on the long-defunct Sharing The
Groove, but were essentially untouched beyond basic cleanup - that
really show how brilliant New Order were in their prime in the mid-'80s.
The
quick-and-dirty background: Whilst cleaning house, a set of New Order
tapes (various mid-80s live gigs, some rehearsals, and a DAT or two from
the band's 1989 US tour) was found by Hooky under the floorboards at
his studio Suite 16 in Rochdale, England. A musician friend of Hooky,
who was in his employ for a duration in the early 90s, then rescued the
tapes and sold them to an infamous collector in Florida, who is known
for not sharing the wealth. In the interim, ATR (sometimes called
Stash) obtained 1st-generation dubs of these tapes before they were
shipped off to Florida. ATR then shared them amongst the New Order
cognoscenti, and then in 2004 we fed them to the world via Sharing The
Groove.
All these gigs had their various problems
as-received from the source in between Hooky and us, the least of which
were sector boundary errors (which means, if burned as-is to CD, there
are audible "pops" in between tracks) and all off-pitch by varying
degrees. Some were extremely muddy, and others were far too bright.
None of them were just right, but my aim is to make them so.
(The
New Order "stash" gigs that were on Sharing The Groove, and various
other torrent sites and blogs from 2004 onward, are all from those
original 2004 releases and have not been formally mastered since, until
now.)
This is the second of two French gigs sourced from the Stash. The first being Rennes; it's not the first to be posted here because Rennes needs quite a bit more TLC than most of these sets. Regardless, this Orleans set is easily one hour of my favorite New Order, ever.
Here, the band visits two songs that were not long for this world; "Hurt" only saw one more airing after this, and "ICB" went to its lonely place forevermore after this night. Which is a shame; I love "ICB" and until Hooky's bass packs it in midway, it's well on its way to "classic track" status.
The rest of the gig is no shambles either, though there are a few whoppers in "She's Lost Control" and it's no wonder they don't revisit this song again until New Order Mk. III in 2001/2002. "In A Lonely Place" cuts where the soundboard tape ran out / at the tape flip spot. Which is a shame, it was going to be brilliant based on the 1:15 that made it.
"Elegia" sends chills up my spine every time I hear it. This is easily the best live version I've ever heard.
The original unmastered version of this gig has been spread pretty far and wide since 2004. Trust me when I say you will want to bin it immediately upon hearing this 2012 mastering - it crushes it like a grape. This version here is truly spectacular, and could be released tomorrow by Warners.
enjoy!
01 - Elegia
02 - The Perfect Kiss
03 - Weirdo
04 - Love Vigilantes
05 - Hurt
06 - Sooner Than You Think
07 - ICB
08 - This Time Of Night
09 - In A Lonely Place (detail)
10 - She's Lost Control
11 - Blue Monday
FLACs here.
Second of a series...
Sunday, August 5, 2012
New Order "stash" tapes, 2012 mastering: 13 Dec 1985 Orleans
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She's lost control??? Where the f***ing taboo?
ReplyDeleteYou have a great talent, this sounds excellent. Many thanks.
ReplyDeleteThanks so much for the remastering. If they are anywhere close to the Recycle series, they will be brilliant! I have a list of all of the Stash tapes if you need it (but I'm guessing not).
ReplyDeleteThank you. It is a pleasure to hear these, as I may not make it to any of the N. American shows (sadly).
ReplyDeleteA zip please...I don't have MF Pro :-(
ReplyDeletei'll be driving from pittsburgh to new york to see new order in october, and listening to these on the way.
ReplyDeleteFantastic remastering work. As always.
ReplyDeleteAwesome set but no Temptation....wtf?
ReplyDeleteThanks for the remasters - the old circulating copies I had of these gigs died with my harddrive last year. This performance of She's Lost Control is why I love their earlier gigs so much. I hope that the Warrington recording from 1986 (I think...) is on your list, if for no reason other than the most amazing rendition Shellshock ever. Cheers!
ReplyDeleteGreat job so far! I missed this gig tho - any chance of a reupload?
ReplyDeleteCheers!
Any chance of a reupload? I missed this before the problems you experienced with hosting the files.
ReplyDeleteThanks again for all of your hard work on these ATR/Stash shows.
Thanks for all of your hard work on these shows. Any chance of a re-up on this one as it is, as you've stated, a classic gig. Cheers!
ReplyDeleteComing up shortly!
DeleteThank you. Much appreciated!!!
DeleteBeen showing as an empty folder since before the weekend. :'(
ReplyDeleteURL updated! Thanks for the heads up.
DeleteWoohoo!!! Nice one Ana!!!
Deletethanks for your efforts with these. Having some issues with pt 1 of Orleans; mediafire throwing up a copyright error. Cheers.
ReplyDeleteThat's odd. It works for me. ???
Deletealso had problems with pt. 1, denied by mediafire...
Deleteshame, but thanks anyway for all the marvellous stuff we ARE able to get. I'm really hoping to get the Irvine '89 download which I missed...
thanks so much!!
thank you for your new order uploads. would you mind re-uploading part 1? i'm getting the same error as ozpom. cheers.
ReplyDeleteReupped! It's appended with "reup" in the filename there.
Deletebeautiful, although i'm sorry to say they were faster than me, it's already blocked like the first one...
Deletei know i should have checked your site daily...
any chance of making your older stuff available, even in mp3?
t-h-a-n-k y-o-u!!
Superb work across the board! I'm also having issues with the Part 1 reupload.
ReplyDeleteCheers!
These live remasters are excellent, thanks so much, brings back great memories as I went to a fair few of the UK dates. Just to let you know I'm also getting a mediafire 'copyright violation' message when trying to download the Orleans part 2 zip, but part 1 downloads fine! Thanks again.
ReplyDeleteBrilliant work, great memories! Am also unable to dl Orleans part 1 due to getting mediafire copyright violation message; part 2 is fine.
ReplyDeletePart 1 is not working. Please re-reup. Thanks!!
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