Wednesday, November 28, 2012

DMCA: it's happened again, with Joy Division this time.

Today I received two notices from Mediafire stating the two Joy Division files (Part and Part for the University of London Union were suspended due to DMCA complaints.

Dear MediaFire User:

MediaFire has received notification under the provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA") that your usage of a file is allegedly infringing on the file creator's copyright protection.

The file named JD - 1980_02-08 ULU (2012 master) part is identified by the key (8nwbdu0xrzkvyge).

As a result of this notice, pursuant to Section 512(c)(1)(C) of the DMCA, we have suspended access to the file.

The reason for suspension was:

                I have a good faith belief that the use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law.

Information about the party that filed the report:

Company Name: GrayZone, Inc
Contact Address:
Contact Name: GrayZone, Inc.
Contact Phone: (718) 360-9941
Contact Email:

Copyright infringement violates MediaFire's Terms of Service. MediaFire accounts that experience multiple incidents of alleged copyright infringement without viable counterclaims may be terminated.

If you feel this suspension was in error, please submit a counterclaim by following the process below.
 I have no idea who GrayZone is.

This is very frustrating.  This material, while released at one point, was given to the label by US.  We enter the questionable area of ROIO (Recordings of Independent Origin) copyright.  Is it worth it for me to file a counterclaim?  Do I - as an "originator" of this work, have any grounds to do so?

I am not re-upping the files.  I also am not going to post High Wycombe (Still's CD2 from the 2007 reissues), also freshly mastered by me after discarding my 2006 work as-released.  That said, punters who did not download ULU yet can find it on the darker sides of the internets; I know at least one site that might be known as or some similar name has the FLACs available.

Additionally, Mediafire (the 2nd account I used) has suspended the analogloyalist account.  Therefore all previous re-upped links are dead.

At this time I am not re-upping anything - if I decide to re-up anything - until I finally sort out hosting.  It is expensive; with the bandwidth used the contributions from my readers doesn't really cover more than a week or so from what I've researched so far.

Due to the heavy spotlight on this blog, I question whether I can post anything not recorded/owned by me myself and I, such as my old bands.  Why would I want to?

Let's see comments.



  1. What fucking bullshit...I can't believe this happened AGAIN. Just as you were about to post one of my favorite JD shows... :(

    I hope this is one day all resolved. You are the single best music remasterer I have ever seen. To see you put down time and again by various copyright Nazis would be a travesty worthy of a line from "Atrocity Exhibition".

    My only question: What happens now, Mr. Analog?

  2. Or you could upload it all to; if it's free and clear there should be no problem at all.

  3. I'd love to know the outcome of any counterclaim, but totally understand if you really cannot be arsed. It's so demoralising when shit like this happens.

    Mediafire has been a bitch lately (the record industry's bitch, that is). Everyone is losing files all over the place.

    I really hope you get something sorted out soon, but again, I would understand if you just thought 'fuck it' and packed it in altogether. Keep the faith.

  4. Shame. This is what happens when Pitchfork writes a news story and links to the blog. You'd think they'd know better. I still wish the REM singles could one day emerge somewhere...

    1. It's not Pitchfork's fault and theirs wasn't the only story run either - I know of at least 2 others.

  5. University of London Union available on Soulseek after I downloaded it the other day. The Warsaw disc is also out there as I downloaded that too.


    I am terribly displeased by that.

  7. What about people hosting through cloud drives and such? I would be willing to host things in that fashion. There has to be a way to keep this live and obscure stuff out there. We can throw money at the problem, but it won't solve it. We need to subvert the system in some fashion. The damn record industry is killing itself.

  8. Can we host this stuff through cloud drives such as Google or any others? I would be willing to host some things for the good of the cause.

    We have to keep this stuff going. The damn music industry is killing the people that are keeping them afloat. I have half a mind to burn everything I own in protest. The fire would burn for several days.

  9. GrayZone, Inc seem to be copyright trolls. They have either been hired by someone who alleges that they have a claim or they have purchased some rights to something related to JD/NO and think they can leverage it into a lawsuit or a settlment

  10. How about a private forum!!!!!

  11. Some of us have some bandwidth to share, as do I. Drop me a line if I can help. charleroi (...)

  12. See? THIS is what happens when you respond to 'requests for material' from record companies. Once they have something they think THEY OWN IT.

    GrayZone need to be informed of the actual ownership of the Material (DH) and the licensing agreement (if any). Should there BE an ACTUAL Written agreement, it can be checked for exclusivity clauses, and, if none exist this can be robustly challenged.

    I hate the record industry with passion. And WB are top of the list.

    1. I never signed an NDA - never signed shit actually. As far as I know there was NO licensing agreement entered into by anyone. For what that's worth. Remember, had we not interceded Warners was just going to take the set from the common circulating CD bootleg of the time.

  13. I would ask to see their client list with proof that they represent the copyright holders.

  14. How about uploading to It seems like the perfect place for you!!

  15. Finally listened to this today...fucking incredible.

  16. any chance High Wycombe might leak or has elaked somewhere ?