Coupla things.
Ex-blog partner 50 Pound Note provided some excellent and apropos artwork for this set.
Free iCookie to anyone who can translate the code. Pick it up from your neighbor and tell them I sent you.
I have done the Ferris Bueller thing with this Seurat painting many times in person, at least until the point the security starts giving you the staredown for getting too close...
Readers will recall I ended the original post with the entreaty that folks carry on the set's availability by uploading it themselves to wetransfer.com and posting the download URL in the comments. I've had several folks contact me looking for a reupload. Now's your time to shine.
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Wednesday, August 16, 2017
New Order - Chicago Metro 1983 addendum
Saturday, August 5, 2017
NEW ORDER 30 June 1983 Cabaret Metro, Chicago
(peeks out from under the covers, sees a world still there, spews out a blog post, and crawls back in...)
I was in Chicago two weekends ago and had one of the most wonderful weekends I've had in many years. I saw 12 hours of excellent music, including two sets each from Poster Children and Tar, made many new friends, met up in person with some existing friends for the first time ever, and just had a blast. Having dinner with Tar two nights in a row was only some of the fun to be had.
But this post has nothing to do with aluminum guitars, noisy punk rock, etc.
Several months ago, I had gotten into a discussion via a Facebook comment thread with a Chicago person who claimed to have a tape of New Order's debut Chicago gig June 30, 1983 at the legendary Cabaret Metro. For background, there are two New Order sets which have long been held up as the Holy Grails of New Order tapes - this show, and their debut Beach Club performance from 1980. For 34 years, no known tape of this Chicago set had been known to exist and all discussion was essentially conjecture and long-diminished memories from club owners and punters who attended. As I had already made arrangements to be in Chicago for the weekend described up top, I made separate arrangements to meet up with this person and pick up a copy of this set. If I'm to be honest, I didn't expect it to be much of anything. So, that Saturday two weeks ago, I did. Turns out to have been with a lovely fellow who had several entertaining stories to share about gigs and particularly this recording.
The minute I put the CD-R into the rental car's CD player, I knew it was special.
I put this on Dime, but decided to also put it up here. The WeTransfer link expires in 7 days - I would ask that any requests after 7 days be met by folks who downloaded it, by re-upping it to WeTransfer and putting the fresh link in the comments. Pay it forward, etc.
So onward.
NEW ORDER
June 30, 1983
Cabaret Metro, Chicago IL USA
Equipment/lineage: who the hell knows -> space aliens -> A. -> CD-R -> Analog Loyalist mastering -> you
It’s not often something like this sort of falls in your lap.
June 30, 1983 was the hottest day of the year to date in Chicago. The now-legendary venue Metro - then known as Cabaret Metro - had been open for roughly a year. While I was just an 11 year old kid cavorting on a beach across Lake Michigan from Chicago that day - or most likely asleep in the summer cottage, considering the time - New Order finally made their debut appearance in Chicago. Attendees say it was unbearably hot inside the Metro that night. And allegedly even hotter on the stage. That day, the high temperature reached near 100° F in Chicago and it had barely cooled as the evening went on. Making matters worse, the band took nearly two hours to get on stage after the opening act, which made an uncomfortable and stinky audience even more strident.
The set starts out as your typical New Order set of the era would. Things seem OK, maybe a bit rowdier crowd than normal, until late in the fourth song “Truth” when the sequencer starts to act up. They launch straight into “Leave Me Alone” which ends uneventfully. Then, the power goes out (as you’d have it). A restless crowd begins complaining amongst itself, with audible complaints about sweat dripping into eyes, another mentioning rubbing ice all over their face, and vocalized thankfulness that they brought paper towels in. Random sequencer bleats punctuate the rumbling crowd, as the roadies and venue staff try to get the power sorted. Hooky mentions needing a shower. Eventually, “Your Silent Face” starts. It devolves into a unique and fascinating exposition on what a sequencer-using band does when the sequencers are failing mid song - Steve Morris jumps behind the drum kit far earlier than usual, and essentially drives the song to its skittering end as the sequencers never recover. I think this take is spectacular and I think you’ll agree.
Barney then makes reference on stage to equipment and power problems, mentions the band’s just going to jam, and Steve then pounds out the drum riff for “Denial”. Instead of jamming, the band then finishes the set with four straight sequencer-free tracks, ending on the majestic “In A Lonely Place” well into the wee hours of the morning.
There is no jamming, no acoustic “Blue Monday” despite the venue owner’s misremembered statements made over the years since. It’s possible of course at some point these did exist and were edited out from this tape upstream, but I doubt it and all other recollections of this gig fail to mention any acoustic “Blue Monday” performances.
For the past 34 years, this set has been legendary in the New Order community due to the circumstances which befell it. And a tape was never known to exist, nor a setlist for that matter. With the 1980 Beach Club set, it was part of the Holy Grail pair of lost New Order sets. That changes today. The story of how this tape ultimately came to me is nearly as good as the story behind the gig, but to protect privacy I shall simply thank A. for this. I believe this is from a 1st generation dub of the master, and whomever the actual taper is remains a complete mystery.
Setlist:
Confusion
Chosen Time
The Village
Truth
Leave Me Alone
Your Silent Face
Denial
Age Of Consent
Ceremony
In A Lonely Place
WeTransfer link - expires in 7 days. FLACs.
I was in Chicago two weekends ago and had one of the most wonderful weekends I've had in many years. I saw 12 hours of excellent music, including two sets each from Poster Children and Tar, made many new friends, met up in person with some existing friends for the first time ever, and just had a blast. Having dinner with Tar two nights in a row was only some of the fun to be had.
But this post has nothing to do with aluminum guitars, noisy punk rock, etc.
Several months ago, I had gotten into a discussion via a Facebook comment thread with a Chicago person who claimed to have a tape of New Order's debut Chicago gig June 30, 1983 at the legendary Cabaret Metro. For background, there are two New Order sets which have long been held up as the Holy Grails of New Order tapes - this show, and their debut Beach Club performance from 1980. For 34 years, no known tape of this Chicago set had been known to exist and all discussion was essentially conjecture and long-diminished memories from club owners and punters who attended. As I had already made arrangements to be in Chicago for the weekend described up top, I made separate arrangements to meet up with this person and pick up a copy of this set. If I'm to be honest, I didn't expect it to be much of anything. So, that Saturday two weeks ago, I did. Turns out to have been with a lovely fellow who had several entertaining stories to share about gigs and particularly this recording.
The minute I put the CD-R into the rental car's CD player, I knew it was special.
I put this on Dime, but decided to also put it up here. The WeTransfer link expires in 7 days - I would ask that any requests after 7 days be met by folks who downloaded it, by re-upping it to WeTransfer and putting the fresh link in the comments. Pay it forward, etc.
So onward.
NEW ORDER
June 30, 1983
Cabaret Metro, Chicago IL USA
Equipment/lineage: who the hell knows -> space aliens -> A. -> CD-R -> Analog Loyalist mastering -> you
It’s not often something like this sort of falls in your lap.
June 30, 1983 was the hottest day of the year to date in Chicago. The now-legendary venue Metro - then known as Cabaret Metro - had been open for roughly a year. While I was just an 11 year old kid cavorting on a beach across Lake Michigan from Chicago that day - or most likely asleep in the summer cottage, considering the time - New Order finally made their debut appearance in Chicago. Attendees say it was unbearably hot inside the Metro that night. And allegedly even hotter on the stage. That day, the high temperature reached near 100° F in Chicago and it had barely cooled as the evening went on. Making matters worse, the band took nearly two hours to get on stage after the opening act, which made an uncomfortable and stinky audience even more strident.
The set starts out as your typical New Order set of the era would. Things seem OK, maybe a bit rowdier crowd than normal, until late in the fourth song “Truth” when the sequencer starts to act up. They launch straight into “Leave Me Alone” which ends uneventfully. Then, the power goes out (as you’d have it). A restless crowd begins complaining amongst itself, with audible complaints about sweat dripping into eyes, another mentioning rubbing ice all over their face, and vocalized thankfulness that they brought paper towels in. Random sequencer bleats punctuate the rumbling crowd, as the roadies and venue staff try to get the power sorted. Hooky mentions needing a shower. Eventually, “Your Silent Face” starts. It devolves into a unique and fascinating exposition on what a sequencer-using band does when the sequencers are failing mid song - Steve Morris jumps behind the drum kit far earlier than usual, and essentially drives the song to its skittering end as the sequencers never recover. I think this take is spectacular and I think you’ll agree.
Barney then makes reference on stage to equipment and power problems, mentions the band’s just going to jam, and Steve then pounds out the drum riff for “Denial”. Instead of jamming, the band then finishes the set with four straight sequencer-free tracks, ending on the majestic “In A Lonely Place” well into the wee hours of the morning.
There is no jamming, no acoustic “Blue Monday” despite the venue owner’s misremembered statements made over the years since. It’s possible of course at some point these did exist and were edited out from this tape upstream, but I doubt it and all other recollections of this gig fail to mention any acoustic “Blue Monday” performances.
For the past 34 years, this set has been legendary in the New Order community due to the circumstances which befell it. And a tape was never known to exist, nor a setlist for that matter. With the 1980 Beach Club set, it was part of the Holy Grail pair of lost New Order sets. That changes today. The story of how this tape ultimately came to me is nearly as good as the story behind the gig, but to protect privacy I shall simply thank A. for this. I believe this is from a 1st generation dub of the master, and whomever the actual taper is remains a complete mystery.
Setlist:
Confusion
Chosen Time
The Village
Truth
Leave Me Alone
Your Silent Face
Denial
Age Of Consent
Ceremony
In A Lonely Place
WeTransfer link - expires in 7 days. FLACs.
Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Houston, we have a problem.
I have been formally asked to cease and desist all New Order / Joy
Division activity, regardless of material and sourcing. It was
mentioned to me that the label has been focusing on me/the blog(s) as
well. Therefore, for my own protection and sanity, it's time to take a timeout and reconsider this blog (and I'm no longer going to be posting on The New Order Archives).
Maybe I'll start a blog about kittens.
-Analog Loyalist
Maybe I'll start a blog about kittens.
-Analog Loyalist
Friday, November 30, 2012
An update
Removed text of email. I have asked for clarification if this is a general Cease and Desist request for all things Joy Division/New Order; I will update with any response.
Wednesday, October 24, 2012
New Order 23 October 2012 Sony Centre, Toronto
I saw New Order last night in Toronto, my third time seeing them (1993 Chicago, and 2005 Chicago, being the other two).
I had aftershow passes to meet the band.
It was, in a word, awesome. Both the gig - by far, the best of the gigs I've seen them play - and the aftershow.
I didn't record the gig, but did record video of Ceremony and Elegia which once I figure out how to rotate 180 degrees (for some reason my Win 7 PC plays these iPhone 5 1080p videos upside down) I will upload.
Hooky was not missed at all; Tom Chapman was fantastic in his pseudo-Hooky role and added his own contributions to each song which just plain worked. The band is clearly in a happy place with their current lineup/outlook, both visually and in discussion, and while I still think the songwriting of more recent times doesn't quite match that of the 80s output, perhaps the reaffirmed bond and outlook of the band/management/personnel will lead to great things again. Bernard said they will be doing a lot of writing and recording next year... And we can't at all discount the returned Gillian influence on the songwriting.
I didn't discuss the blog or Recycle, or the Archives project, with them because it was not the appropriate setting.
Steve is the most awesome guy ever, he knew straightaway who I was and was obviously just as happy to talk to me as I was to him (clearly he knew, based on the fact that he told me so, what I'd done for the band since 2006). And a hell of a drummer; seeing him playing acoustic drums (rather than the electronic drumset he'd been using since 1987) - and hearing the audible difference in each song - was absolutely spectacular.
It was quite something getting deeply involved in technoweenie audio engineering discussions with someone who cares, and knows what I'm talking about, with Steve. I got a lot of questions answered that aren't really relevant to share here, and some essential background on other things that aren't really ideal to discuss in this format. One thing that is of interest is that our Western Works reel isn't the master per se, but a dub of it (all the Cabs members and NO had reel dubs off the master, and this was likely one of those), and the Rob Gretton vocal track ("Are You Ready...") was unfinished. He thought how we obtained the reel was awesome.
Here's your humble blogger and Bernard (who was jealous of my iPhone 5; he said his iPhone 4 was getting a bit too slow, haha)...
I am tired, it was a long night and drive back from Toronto but absolutely worth it. Cheers!
I had aftershow passes to meet the band.
It was, in a word, awesome. Both the gig - by far, the best of the gigs I've seen them play - and the aftershow.
I didn't record the gig, but did record video of Ceremony and Elegia which once I figure out how to rotate 180 degrees (for some reason my Win 7 PC plays these iPhone 5 1080p videos upside down) I will upload.
Hooky was not missed at all; Tom Chapman was fantastic in his pseudo-Hooky role and added his own contributions to each song which just plain worked. The band is clearly in a happy place with their current lineup/outlook, both visually and in discussion, and while I still think the songwriting of more recent times doesn't quite match that of the 80s output, perhaps the reaffirmed bond and outlook of the band/management/personnel will lead to great things again. Bernard said they will be doing a lot of writing and recording next year... And we can't at all discount the returned Gillian influence on the songwriting.
I didn't discuss the blog or Recycle, or the Archives project, with them because it was not the appropriate setting.
Steve is the most awesome guy ever, he knew straightaway who I was and was obviously just as happy to talk to me as I was to him (clearly he knew, based on the fact that he told me so, what I'd done for the band since 2006). And a hell of a drummer; seeing him playing acoustic drums (rather than the electronic drumset he'd been using since 1987) - and hearing the audible difference in each song - was absolutely spectacular.
It was quite something getting deeply involved in technoweenie audio engineering discussions with someone who cares, and knows what I'm talking about, with Steve. I got a lot of questions answered that aren't really relevant to share here, and some essential background on other things that aren't really ideal to discuss in this format. One thing that is of interest is that our Western Works reel isn't the master per se, but a dub of it (all the Cabs members and NO had reel dubs off the master, and this was likely one of those), and the Rob Gretton vocal track ("Are You Ready...") was unfinished. He thought how we obtained the reel was awesome.
Here's your humble blogger and Bernard (who was jealous of my iPhone 5; he said his iPhone 4 was getting a bit too slow, haha)...
I am tired, it was a long night and drive back from Toronto but absolutely worth it. Cheers!
Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Status update...
First of all I'd like to thank all those whom have contributed to
future hosting. The generosity of others is wonderful and while I will
stay with Mediafire for the short term (under the new account set up in
the wake of the old account's deletion), permanent hosting is in the
plan. Many have stated that the biggest cost will be for
data/throughput, not server space itself; this means that it's critical I
come up with a plan regarding lossless FLAC availability to all who
want it. Not sure yet what that will entail (link by invite only?
Trackerless torrent using DHT? Self-hosting at terrible transfer speeds
(and the certain notice/hit it will be with my ISP)? Things to think
about. Regardless, posting will continue.
Second, while activity may have slowed on the New Order Archives posting front, I still have a large pile to plow through. I've taken a slight break from New Order simply because it was approaching burnout again; I'll bury myself into a project so much, at such a frenzied burst of activity, that I have to step back lest I not want to hear a single note again. It was getting to that stage. Rest assured that in short order new posts will be forthcoming, just as splendid as the last ones. I do have some good ones in the works too for TPoIT only (non-New Order), I just have to get finished with them.
Creative solutions invited to the data throughput conundrum.
Second, while activity may have slowed on the New Order Archives posting front, I still have a large pile to plow through. I've taken a slight break from New Order simply because it was approaching burnout again; I'll bury myself into a project so much, at such a frenzied burst of activity, that I have to step back lest I not want to hear a single note again. It was getting to that stage. Rest assured that in short order new posts will be forthcoming, just as splendid as the last ones. I do have some good ones in the works too for TPoIT only (non-New Order), I just have to get finished with them.
Creative solutions invited to the data throughput conundrum.
Thursday, September 6, 2012
status update regarding file hosting - read me!
For the short term I've created a new Mediafire account and will be
slowly migrating content over to there. Not sure if I'll go back in the
archives of TPoIT because a lot of the original files I no longer have
due to an older drive crash, though.
What's going to certainly be migrating is the recent New Order postings, starting with the stash sets here. I'll post new links in the comments as I go along.
This is only a short-term solution, however. A few readers have suggested a collection box to arrange for more suitable hosting as we proceed, and this is a good idea. I'm also contemplating moving to a newer model whereby the public links are M4A (AAC) files, and readers who would want lossless can simply request it. This would cut down on server costs, and I am slowly coming around to the convenience idea of the basics being easily accessible and usable off-the-bat by my readers. The purist in me really is kicking and screaming that I am even considering doing this archival material in any form of lossy format, but the debate is raging healthily inside.
So... followers can help by PayPal, any amount, to dcrumbaugh at gmail dot com (I don't have the analogloyalist account set up properly for PayPal), and this will go to future hosting costs as I transition down the road from Mediafire to something a bit more reliable.
Thanks for your continued patience, and let's carry on!
What's going to certainly be migrating is the recent New Order postings, starting with the stash sets here. I'll post new links in the comments as I go along.
This is only a short-term solution, however. A few readers have suggested a collection box to arrange for more suitable hosting as we proceed, and this is a good idea. I'm also contemplating moving to a newer model whereby the public links are M4A (AAC) files, and readers who would want lossless can simply request it. This would cut down on server costs, and I am slowly coming around to the convenience idea of the basics being easily accessible and usable off-the-bat by my readers. The purist in me really is kicking and screaming that I am even considering doing this archival material in any form of lossy format, but the debate is raging healthily inside.
So... followers can help by PayPal, any amount, to dcrumbaugh at gmail dot com (I don't have the analogloyalist account set up properly for PayPal), and this will go to future hosting costs as I transition down the road from Mediafire to something a bit more reliable.
Thanks for your continued patience, and let's carry on!
mediafire account suspension - help your host out!
So, the blog's download host has suspended the account. All downloads are invalid. I've submitted a ticket to Mediafire asking which file led to the suspension, so I can remove it and ideally restore access to the overall account.
That said... your host humbly now asks if a follower can generously donate storage/hosting space. Any helpers are advised to contact me via email analogloyalist at gmail dot com and your generosity will be greatly appreciated.
This affects TPoIT and The New Order Archives.
Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience!
That said... your host humbly now asks if a follower can generously donate storage/hosting space. Any helpers are advised to contact me via email analogloyalist at gmail dot com and your generosity will be greatly appreciated.
This affects TPoIT and The New Order Archives.
Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience!
Sunday, September 2, 2012
on the New Order Archives: 15 May 1985 OZ/NZ85 Perth (stash)
A negative stunner! See the writeup... ;) Have at it.
Tags:
New Order,
stash,
The New Order Archives
Monday, August 27, 2012
Wednesday, August 22, 2012
on The New Order Archives: 4 Nov 1986 The Palace, Hollywood
a scorcher!
http://archive.new-order.net/2012/08/4-november-1986-palace-hollywood-ca.html
please to enjoy!
http://archive.new-order.net/2012/08/4-november-1986-palace-hollywood-ca.html
please to enjoy!
Thursday, August 16, 2012
on The New Order Archives: 17 Dec 1985 Leuven, Belgium
Just as brilliant as the others so far - ch-ch-check it out!
Tags:
New Order,
stash,
The New Order Archives
Sunday, August 12, 2012
on The New Order Archives: 20 June 1981 Glastonbury
again, in "best ever" quality! Go get it!
Friday, August 10, 2012
On The New Order Archives: Tolworth 12 March 1983
In "Best Ever" quality - check it out!
Tuesday, August 7, 2012
The New Order Archives: a new blog.
With the huge amount of exposure these "stash" tapes have received, and the large number of downloads the files have seen, clearly there is an interest in something more.
So, I've started a new blog, The New Order Archives. The first post explains the mission statement and what to expect. Please update your bookmarks, and keep both TPoIT and TNOA on your RSS feeds ;)
For a duration, I will crosspost new entries on TNOA over here, but only links to the posts over on TNOA. But ultimately all "stash"-type material will only be on TNOA, with my normal non-New Order postings continuing here.
Speaking of New Order.... IFPI/Warners DMCA'ed the Run 2 unreleased mixes post. I didn't complain this time as in this case it clearly was something the label had rights to and I had squat; I had just hoped that 20+ year old mixes, never released, would escape anyone's attention. Then again, 6,000 downloads later since they were posted in 2009, there clearly was interest. Ah well.
Enjoy TNOA! I think my first post there will be new-ish masterings of the Western Works demos, hugely improved from the version I posted a million years ago. Watch that space...
- Analog Loyalist
So, I've started a new blog, The New Order Archives. The first post explains the mission statement and what to expect. Please update your bookmarks, and keep both TPoIT and TNOA on your RSS feeds ;)
For a duration, I will crosspost new entries on TNOA over here, but only links to the posts over on TNOA. But ultimately all "stash"-type material will only be on TNOA, with my normal non-New Order postings continuing here.
Speaking of New Order.... IFPI/Warners DMCA'ed the Run 2 unreleased mixes post. I didn't complain this time as in this case it clearly was something the label had rights to and I had squat; I had just hoped that 20+ year old mixes, never released, would escape anyone's attention. Then again, 6,000 downloads later since they were posted in 2009, there clearly was interest. Ah well.
Enjoy TNOA! I think my first post there will be new-ish masterings of the Western Works demos, hugely improved from the version I posted a million years ago. Watch that space...
- Analog Loyalist
Tags:
New Order,
stash,
The New Order Archives
Sunday, August 5, 2012
New Order "stash" tapes, 2012 mastering: 7 July 1984 Barcelona
New Order
Studio 54, Barcelona, Spain
7 July 1984
source: Hooky's rubbish bin (the "stash" tapes)
lineage: Master soundboard recording cassette
analogloyalist mastering August 2012
At long last I'm starting to fix up and free a stash of gigs - which first saw the light (heh) in 2004 on the long-defunct Sharing The Groove, but were essentially untouched beyond basic cleanup - that really show how brilliant New Order were in their prime in the mid-'80s.
The quick-and-dirty background: Whilst cleaning house, a set of master New Order soundboard tapes (various mid-80s live gigs, some rehearsals, and a DAT or two from the band's 1989 US tour) was found by Hooky under the floorboards at his studio Suite 16 in Rochdale, England. A musician friend of Hooky, who was in his employ for a duration in the early 90s, then rescued the tapes and sold them to an infamous collector in Florida, a collector not known for sharing the wealth. In the interim, ATR (sometimes called Stash) obtained digital transfers of these tapes before they were shipped off to Florida. ATR then shared them amongst the New Order cognoscenti, and then in 2004 we fed them to the world via Sharing The Groove.
All these gigs had their various problems as-received from the source in between Hooky and us, the least of which were sector boundary errors (which means, if burned as-is to CD, there are audible "pops" in between tracks) and all off-pitch by varying degrees. Some were extremely muddy, and others were far too bright. None of them were just right, but my aim is to make them so.
(The New Order "stash" gigs that were on Sharing The Groove, and various other torrent sites and blogs from 2004 onward, are all from those original 2004 releases and have not been formally mastered since, until now.)

This is easily one of my all-time favorite New Order sets. Generally fantastic, crystalline sound; great setlist; unique segues; sequencer cockups. It's all here.
"Ceremony" on the Retro box set live CD was sourced from this very transfer via one of the Stash transfer recipients, though obviously without my mastering (the Retro version is inexplicably slowed down, and has been "muddified" for lack of a better term). It truly shines here and is one of my favorite performances ever of this track. Don't let the sound quality of the Retro version scare you, at all - this completely shatters Retro's version and beats it to a bloody pulp.
"Skullcrusher" - enough said. One of the few performances with "lyrics" - and I put that in quotes because it's basically Barney ad-libbing a lyric. And it's wonderful, in its absurdity. The performance is, simply, out of this world. And "Lonesome Tonight"! Easily a top 5 New Order track for me.
Throughout the sequenced tracks ("The Village" / "Confusion" / "Hurt" / "Blue Monday" / "Everything's Gone Green" / "Temptation") you can audibly hear problems with the sequencer. It's cutting in and out (it's actually mostly in, it's only dropping out in a few places) of the board feed; I have no idea if this was a problem with the on-stage equipment or simply the feed into the PA. It makes for some unique versions, and I absolutely love it.
There's a wonderful problem with the sequencer kicking off "Everything's Gone Green" in that it bleats "Blue Monday" in perfect sync with "Everything's Gone Green" until Gillian sets things right. And the perfect segue between "EGG" and "Temptation" is done perfectly, the sequencer going for a full 12 minutes straight between the two songs. Love it!
The original unmastered version of this gig has been spread pretty far and wide since 2004. Trust me when I say you will want to bin it immediately upon hearing this 2012 mastering - it crushes it like a grape. This version here is truly spectacular, and could be released tomorrow by Warners.
enjoy!
01 Your Silent Face
02 The Village
03 Ceremony
04 Skullcrusher
05 We All Stand
06 Lonesome Tonight
07 Confusion
08 Hurt
09 Age Of Consent
10 Blue Monday
11 Bernard and Hooky riffing
12 Everything's Gone Green ---->
13 Temptation
FLACs here.
Third of a series...
Studio 54, Barcelona, Spain
7 July 1984
source: Hooky's rubbish bin (the "stash" tapes)
lineage: Master soundboard recording cassette
analogloyalist mastering August 2012
At long last I'm starting to fix up and free a stash of gigs - which first saw the light (heh) in 2004 on the long-defunct Sharing The Groove, but were essentially untouched beyond basic cleanup - that really show how brilliant New Order were in their prime in the mid-'80s.
The quick-and-dirty background: Whilst cleaning house, a set of master New Order soundboard tapes (various mid-80s live gigs, some rehearsals, and a DAT or two from the band's 1989 US tour) was found by Hooky under the floorboards at his studio Suite 16 in Rochdale, England. A musician friend of Hooky, who was in his employ for a duration in the early 90s, then rescued the tapes and sold them to an infamous collector in Florida, a collector not known for sharing the wealth. In the interim, ATR (sometimes called Stash) obtained digital transfers of these tapes before they were shipped off to Florida. ATR then shared them amongst the New Order cognoscenti, and then in 2004 we fed them to the world via Sharing The Groove.
All these gigs had their various problems as-received from the source in between Hooky and us, the least of which were sector boundary errors (which means, if burned as-is to CD, there are audible "pops" in between tracks) and all off-pitch by varying degrees. Some were extremely muddy, and others were far too bright. None of them were just right, but my aim is to make them so.
(The New Order "stash" gigs that were on Sharing The Groove, and various other torrent sites and blogs from 2004 onward, are all from those original 2004 releases and have not been formally mastered since, until now.)

This is easily one of my all-time favorite New Order sets. Generally fantastic, crystalline sound; great setlist; unique segues; sequencer cockups. It's all here.
"Ceremony" on the Retro box set live CD was sourced from this very transfer via one of the Stash transfer recipients, though obviously without my mastering (the Retro version is inexplicably slowed down, and has been "muddified" for lack of a better term). It truly shines here and is one of my favorite performances ever of this track. Don't let the sound quality of the Retro version scare you, at all - this completely shatters Retro's version and beats it to a bloody pulp.
"Skullcrusher" - enough said. One of the few performances with "lyrics" - and I put that in quotes because it's basically Barney ad-libbing a lyric. And it's wonderful, in its absurdity. The performance is, simply, out of this world. And "Lonesome Tonight"! Easily a top 5 New Order track for me.
Throughout the sequenced tracks ("The Village" / "Confusion" / "Hurt" / "Blue Monday" / "Everything's Gone Green" / "Temptation") you can audibly hear problems with the sequencer. It's cutting in and out (it's actually mostly in, it's only dropping out in a few places) of the board feed; I have no idea if this was a problem with the on-stage equipment or simply the feed into the PA. It makes for some unique versions, and I absolutely love it.
There's a wonderful problem with the sequencer kicking off "Everything's Gone Green" in that it bleats "Blue Monday" in perfect sync with "Everything's Gone Green" until Gillian sets things right. And the perfect segue between "EGG" and "Temptation" is done perfectly, the sequencer going for a full 12 minutes straight between the two songs. Love it!
The original unmastered version of this gig has been spread pretty far and wide since 2004. Trust me when I say you will want to bin it immediately upon hearing this 2012 mastering - it crushes it like a grape. This version here is truly spectacular, and could be released tomorrow by Warners.
enjoy!
01 Your Silent Face
02 The Village
03 Ceremony
04 Skullcrusher
05 We All Stand
06 Lonesome Tonight
07 Confusion
08 Hurt
09 Age Of Consent
10 Blue Monday
11 Bernard and Hooky riffing
12 Everything's Gone Green ---->
13 Temptation
FLACs here.
Third of a series...
New Order "stash" tapes, 2012 mastering: 13 Dec 1985 Orleans
New Order
Salle du Baron, Orleans, France
13 December 1985
source: Hooky's rubbish bin (the "stash" tapes)
1st generation dub of cassette master (if not *the* master...)
analogloyalist mastering August 2012
At long last I'm starting to fix up and free a stash of gigs - which first saw the light (heh) in 2004 on the long-defunct Sharing The Groove, but were essentially untouched beyond basic cleanup - that really show how brilliant New Order were in their prime in the mid-'80s.
The quick-and-dirty background: Whilst cleaning house, a set of New Order tapes (various mid-80s live gigs, some rehearsals, and a DAT or two from the band's 1989 US tour) was found by Hooky under the floorboards at his studio Suite 16 in Rochdale, England. A musician friend of Hooky, who was in his employ for a duration in the early 90s, then rescued the tapes and sold them to an infamous collector in Florida, who is known for not sharing the wealth. In the interim, ATR (sometimes called Stash) obtained 1st-generation dubs of these tapes before they were shipped off to Florida. ATR then shared them amongst the New Order cognoscenti, and then in 2004 we fed them to the world via Sharing The Groove.
All these gigs had their various problems as-received from the source in between Hooky and us, the least of which were sector boundary errors (which means, if burned as-is to CD, there are audible "pops" in between tracks) and all off-pitch by varying degrees. Some were extremely muddy, and others were far too bright. None of them were just right, but my aim is to make them so.
(The New Order "stash" gigs that were on Sharing The Groove, and various other torrent sites and blogs from 2004 onward, are all from those original 2004 releases and have not been formally mastered since, until now.)
This is the second of two French gigs sourced from the Stash. The first being Rennes; it's not the first to be posted here because Rennes needs quite a bit more TLC than most of these sets. Regardless, this Orleans set is easily one hour of my favorite New Order, ever.
Here, the band visits two songs that were not long for this world; "Hurt" only saw one more airing after this, and "ICB" went to its lonely place forevermore after this night. Which is a shame; I love "ICB" and until Hooky's bass packs it in midway, it's well on its way to "classic track" status.
The rest of the gig is no shambles either, though there are a few whoppers in "She's Lost Control" and it's no wonder they don't revisit this song again until New Order Mk. III in 2001/2002. "In A Lonely Place" cuts where the soundboard tape ran out / at the tape flip spot. Which is a shame, it was going to be brilliant based on the 1:15 that made it.
"Elegia" sends chills up my spine every time I hear it. This is easily the best live version I've ever heard.
The original unmastered version of this gig has been spread pretty far and wide since 2004. Trust me when I say you will want to bin it immediately upon hearing this 2012 mastering - it crushes it like a grape. This version here is truly spectacular, and could be released tomorrow by Warners.
enjoy!
01 - Elegia
02 - The Perfect Kiss
03 - Weirdo
04 - Love Vigilantes
05 - Hurt
06 - Sooner Than You Think
07 - ICB
08 - This Time Of Night
09 - In A Lonely Place (detail)
10 - She's Lost Control
11 - Blue Monday
FLACs here.
Second of a series...
Salle du Baron, Orleans, France
13 December 1985
source: Hooky's rubbish bin (the "stash" tapes)
1st generation dub of cassette master (if not *the* master...)
analogloyalist mastering August 2012
At long last I'm starting to fix up and free a stash of gigs - which first saw the light (heh) in 2004 on the long-defunct Sharing The Groove, but were essentially untouched beyond basic cleanup - that really show how brilliant New Order were in their prime in the mid-'80s.
The quick-and-dirty background: Whilst cleaning house, a set of New Order tapes (various mid-80s live gigs, some rehearsals, and a DAT or two from the band's 1989 US tour) was found by Hooky under the floorboards at his studio Suite 16 in Rochdale, England. A musician friend of Hooky, who was in his employ for a duration in the early 90s, then rescued the tapes and sold them to an infamous collector in Florida, who is known for not sharing the wealth. In the interim, ATR (sometimes called Stash) obtained 1st-generation dubs of these tapes before they were shipped off to Florida. ATR then shared them amongst the New Order cognoscenti, and then in 2004 we fed them to the world via Sharing The Groove.
All these gigs had their various problems as-received from the source in between Hooky and us, the least of which were sector boundary errors (which means, if burned as-is to CD, there are audible "pops" in between tracks) and all off-pitch by varying degrees. Some were extremely muddy, and others were far too bright. None of them were just right, but my aim is to make them so.
(The New Order "stash" gigs that were on Sharing The Groove, and various other torrent sites and blogs from 2004 onward, are all from those original 2004 releases and have not been formally mastered since, until now.)
This is the second of two French gigs sourced from the Stash. The first being Rennes; it's not the first to be posted here because Rennes needs quite a bit more TLC than most of these sets. Regardless, this Orleans set is easily one hour of my favorite New Order, ever.
Here, the band visits two songs that were not long for this world; "Hurt" only saw one more airing after this, and "ICB" went to its lonely place forevermore after this night. Which is a shame; I love "ICB" and until Hooky's bass packs it in midway, it's well on its way to "classic track" status.
The rest of the gig is no shambles either, though there are a few whoppers in "She's Lost Control" and it's no wonder they don't revisit this song again until New Order Mk. III in 2001/2002. "In A Lonely Place" cuts where the soundboard tape ran out / at the tape flip spot. Which is a shame, it was going to be brilliant based on the 1:15 that made it.
"Elegia" sends chills up my spine every time I hear it. This is easily the best live version I've ever heard.
The original unmastered version of this gig has been spread pretty far and wide since 2004. Trust me when I say you will want to bin it immediately upon hearing this 2012 mastering - it crushes it like a grape. This version here is truly spectacular, and could be released tomorrow by Warners.
enjoy!
01 - Elegia
02 - The Perfect Kiss
03 - Weirdo
04 - Love Vigilantes
05 - Hurt
06 - Sooner Than You Think
07 - ICB
08 - This Time Of Night
09 - In A Lonely Place (detail)
10 - She's Lost Control
11 - Blue Monday
FLACs here.
Second of a series...
Saturday, August 4, 2012
New Order "stash" tapes, 2012 mastering: 7 Dec 1985 Slough
New Order
Fulcrum Centre, Slough
7 December 1985
source: Hooky's rubbish bin (the "stash" tapes)
1st generation dub of cassette master
analogloyalist mastering August 2012
At long last I'm starting to fix up and free a stash of gigs - which first saw the light (heh) in 2004 on the long-defunct Sharing The Groove, but were essentially untouched beyond basic cleanup - that really show how brilliant New Order were in their prime in the mid-'80s.
The quick-and-dirty background: Whilst cleaning house, a set of New Order tapes (various mid-80s live gigs, some rehearsals, and a DAT or two from the band's 1989 US tour) was found by Hooky under the floorboards at his studio Suite 16 in Rochdale, England. A musician friend of Hooky, who was in his employ for a duration in the early 90s, then rescued the tapes and sold them to an infamous collector in Florida, who is known for not sharing the wealth. In the interim, ATR (sometimes called Stash) obtained 1st-generation dubs of these tapes before they were shipped off to Florida. ATR then shared them amongst the New Order cognoscenti, and then in 2004 we fed them to the world via Sharing The Groove.
All these gigs had their various problems as-received from the source in between Hooky and us, the least of which were sector boundary errors (which means, if burned as-is to CD, there are audible "pops" in between tracks) and all off-pitch by varying degrees. Some were extremely muddy, and others were far too bright. None of them were just right, but my aim is to make them so.
(The New Order "stash" gigs that were on Sharing The Groove, and various other torrent sites and blogs from 2004 onward, are all from those original 2004 releases and have not been formally mastered since, until now.)
With this set, we see the band in fine form in metropolitan London. Two notables about this gig:
1) "This Time Of Night" from this gig was shortlisted for the live CD in the Retro box set, and this version (unmastered, presumably) appeared on very early track sheets (and working CD-Rs during compilation). Bobby Gillespie loved it but Bernard had it binned for another track instead (I forget which).
2) "She's Lost Control" is debuted by New Order. This period of New Order gigging is weird; it's obvious they were in a bit of a state because they played a handful of Joy Division tracks here in December 1985 to the extent they'd never done before, and wouldn't do so again until 1998. They unearthed "She's Lost Control", "Atmosphere", and "Love Will Tear Us Apart" during this period.
The original unmastered version has been spread pretty far and wide since 2004. Trust me when I say you will want to bin it immediately upon hearing this 2012 mastering - it crushes it like a grape. This set here is easily a candidate for official release (barring the fades/cuts on the original cassette board master), should the band re-activate their once-planned-subsequently-binned live album project.
enjoy!
01 State Of The Nation (fades in)
02 Blue Monday
03 The Village
04 This Time Of Night
05 Subculture
06 Thieves Like Us
07 Confusion
08 Weirdo
09 Ceremony (cuts in)
10 Temptation
11 She's Lost Control
12 The Perfect Kiss
FLACs here.
First of a series...
Fulcrum Centre, Slough
7 December 1985
source: Hooky's rubbish bin (the "stash" tapes)
1st generation dub of cassette master
analogloyalist mastering August 2012
At long last I'm starting to fix up and free a stash of gigs - which first saw the light (heh) in 2004 on the long-defunct Sharing The Groove, but were essentially untouched beyond basic cleanup - that really show how brilliant New Order were in their prime in the mid-'80s.
The quick-and-dirty background: Whilst cleaning house, a set of New Order tapes (various mid-80s live gigs, some rehearsals, and a DAT or two from the band's 1989 US tour) was found by Hooky under the floorboards at his studio Suite 16 in Rochdale, England. A musician friend of Hooky, who was in his employ for a duration in the early 90s, then rescued the tapes and sold them to an infamous collector in Florida, who is known for not sharing the wealth. In the interim, ATR (sometimes called Stash) obtained 1st-generation dubs of these tapes before they were shipped off to Florida. ATR then shared them amongst the New Order cognoscenti, and then in 2004 we fed them to the world via Sharing The Groove.
All these gigs had their various problems as-received from the source in between Hooky and us, the least of which were sector boundary errors (which means, if burned as-is to CD, there are audible "pops" in between tracks) and all off-pitch by varying degrees. Some were extremely muddy, and others were far too bright. None of them were just right, but my aim is to make them so.
(The New Order "stash" gigs that were on Sharing The Groove, and various other torrent sites and blogs from 2004 onward, are all from those original 2004 releases and have not been formally mastered since, until now.)
With this set, we see the band in fine form in metropolitan London. Two notables about this gig:
1) "This Time Of Night" from this gig was shortlisted for the live CD in the Retro box set, and this version (unmastered, presumably) appeared on very early track sheets (and working CD-Rs during compilation). Bobby Gillespie loved it but Bernard had it binned for another track instead (I forget which).
2) "She's Lost Control" is debuted by New Order. This period of New Order gigging is weird; it's obvious they were in a bit of a state because they played a handful of Joy Division tracks here in December 1985 to the extent they'd never done before, and wouldn't do so again until 1998. They unearthed "She's Lost Control", "Atmosphere", and "Love Will Tear Us Apart" during this period.
The original unmastered version has been spread pretty far and wide since 2004. Trust me when I say you will want to bin it immediately upon hearing this 2012 mastering - it crushes it like a grape. This set here is easily a candidate for official release (barring the fades/cuts on the original cassette board master), should the band re-activate their once-planned-subsequently-binned live album project.
enjoy!
01 State Of The Nation (fades in)
02 Blue Monday
03 The Village
04 This Time Of Night
05 Subculture
06 Thieves Like Us
07 Confusion
08 Weirdo
09 Ceremony (cuts in)
10 Temptation
11 She's Lost Control
12 The Perfect Kiss
FLACs here.
First of a series...
Thursday, June 7, 2012
country feedback
(crossposted with REMcycle)
Lots of press on the last post (on REMcycle, here).
First was Rolling Stone, I was starting to see pings on the blog at approximately 10am (EDT) from them.
And lastly, my favorite:
Lots of press on the last post (on REMcycle, here).
First was Rolling Stone, I was starting to see pings on the blog at approximately 10am (EDT) from them.
prefixmag: R.E.M. Restoration Blog Pressured To Shut Down By Universal Over Material That The Label May Not Actually Own
aux.tv (Canada): Universal issues copyright takedown notice for songs it doesn’t own on R.E.M. archivist’s blog
aux.tv (Canada): Universal issues copyright takedown notice for songs it doesn’t own on R.E.M. archivist’s blog
exclaim.ca (Canada): R.E.M. Blog Shut Down After Questionable Copyright Claim from Universal
The best one though, as they actually did original research (err, they talked to us) was from Spin - which also presented the most balanced piece:
The best one though, as they actually did original research (err, they talked to us) was from Spin - which also presented the most balanced piece:
Takedown notice thwarts latest project by audiophiles behind Joy Division/New Order blogs
And lastly, my favorite:
Here's
the entirety of the Soundabble article, preserved just in case the
editors realize the writer was beaming in from Mars (or felt that
repeating the RS article was much more exciting if run through a loop of
Google re-translations first):
The digital archivist who easy a singles catalogs of a Smiths, Joy Division and New Order in a array of blog projects is being strongly disheartened from starting a identical plan collecting R.E.M.’s beginning work. In a blog post on a nascent R.E.M.cycle site, a blogger famous as Analog Loyalist explained that Universal, a record association that owns a band’s IRS Records catalog, expelled a Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) takedown notice for an R.E.M. post on a writer’s sister site The Power of Independent Trucking featuring a easy chronicle of a band’s initial cassette demo, with early renditions of “Radio Free Europe,” “Sitting Still” and “White Tornado.”A rope has no record contract, indeed.
“Tell me, what purpose does a IFPI (of that Universal is apparently a member) have to do with unreleased element available when a rope had no record contract?,” Analog Loyalist writes, referring to a International Federation of a Phonographic Industry. “These were demos openly given divided by a band. On low-fi C45 cassettes. And a IFPI thinks it’s their business how?”
The blogger is now reconsidering a knowledge of posterior a project. “So we can see since I’m really wavering to pierce brazen with this blog, usually since we don’t wish to see my efforts as a writer/archivist/engineer wasted,” he writes.
The site would in fact be a really labor-intensive process. As explained in a sidebar for a R.E.M., Smiths and Joy Division/New Order sites, a marks used are “taken from a best/earliest probable sources to equivocate complicated mastering techniques that vanquish a dynamics,” and a design is “scanned during a top probable fortitude and a form was reset when probable regulating a strange fonts.” All works featured in these projects are from out-of-print sources, and some marks have never been commercially expelled or reissued.
Friday, September 23, 2011
R.E.M.: did we miss anything?
As expected, closets are opening up, drawers dug through, rare tapes transferred and suddenly freed.
A very cool set of '82/'83-era Murmur roughs, including very early Mitch Easter mixes of Murmur tracks-in-progress, and additional tracks from the same Murmur sessions that - to now - hadn't left the clutches of a very select few, have suddenly found their way onto Dime.
I may at some point put up the balance of the set because there are some gems in there. But, the coolest part of the trove has to be the heretofore-unknown *full take* of the Stephen Hague "Catapult" demo. As the story goes, when time came for REM to hit the studio to record that first LP for I.R.S., they wanted to use Mitch Easter (a relative noob, as far as I.R.S. was concerned) after loving what Easter did with them on Chronic Town. I.R.S. wanted something more commercial, so asked the band to use Stephen Hague. Now, knowing what we now know about Hague, nothing could be further away from R.E.M.'s mindset than using that guy - he of numerous Pet Shop Boys / New Order / etc club-type sessions. At the time though he was a fledgling Boston-based producer that was just another guy to consider.
So they set up a deal: the band would record one song with Hague, and one song with Easter. The winner of the demo-off would produce that critical debut LP.
Hague went first, and recorded "Catapult". It was, as legend has it, the worst recording session the band ever had; Bill being forced to re-track the drums innumerable times against a wooden click track, and Hague dropping synths all over the track.
The band then went to Charlotte, North Carolina and did a track with Easter (who had brought in Don Dixon to help): "Pilgrimage". Even I.R.S. had to give up on Hague at that point, hearing both results. The band (and I.R.S.) loved the Easter/Dixon "Pilgrimage" recording so much it essentially was used as-is on the record.
However, the R.E.M. fraternity hated the Hague recording so much it was essentially erased from the collective memory, except in the occasional interview. But it *never* saw release, at all. Only a few years ago, a short snippet was suddenly unleashed, just to give a tasting of the atrocity.
So today we get the whole deal, the full-length Hague "Catapult". It truly is laughable and a very wonderful find; not that anyone's going to drop it in their Murmur playlist as a direct replacement for the version recorded with Easter/Dixon, but it's a nice thing regardless.
*** EDIT *** I've replaced the targets with the final, best-ever mastering which supercedes anything you may have downloaded previously. Download it again for the full Hague-orama!
FLAC / MP3 (LAME 320k)
I took the version from Dime and ran it through my wringer, it's a pretty good (read: tremendous) improvement over the Dime version.
A very cool set of '82/'83-era Murmur roughs, including very early Mitch Easter mixes of Murmur tracks-in-progress, and additional tracks from the same Murmur sessions that - to now - hadn't left the clutches of a very select few, have suddenly found their way onto Dime.
I may at some point put up the balance of the set because there are some gems in there. But, the coolest part of the trove has to be the heretofore-unknown *full take* of the Stephen Hague "Catapult" demo. As the story goes, when time came for REM to hit the studio to record that first LP for I.R.S., they wanted to use Mitch Easter (a relative noob, as far as I.R.S. was concerned) after loving what Easter did with them on Chronic Town. I.R.S. wanted something more commercial, so asked the band to use Stephen Hague. Now, knowing what we now know about Hague, nothing could be further away from R.E.M.'s mindset than using that guy - he of numerous Pet Shop Boys / New Order / etc club-type sessions. At the time though he was a fledgling Boston-based producer that was just another guy to consider.
So they set up a deal: the band would record one song with Hague, and one song with Easter. The winner of the demo-off would produce that critical debut LP.
Hague went first, and recorded "Catapult". It was, as legend has it, the worst recording session the band ever had; Bill being forced to re-track the drums innumerable times against a wooden click track, and Hague dropping synths all over the track.
The band then went to Charlotte, North Carolina and did a track with Easter (who had brought in Don Dixon to help): "Pilgrimage". Even I.R.S. had to give up on Hague at that point, hearing both results. The band (and I.R.S.) loved the Easter/Dixon "Pilgrimage" recording so much it essentially was used as-is on the record.
However, the R.E.M. fraternity hated the Hague recording so much it was essentially erased from the collective memory, except in the occasional interview. But it *never* saw release, at all. Only a few years ago, a short snippet was suddenly unleashed, just to give a tasting of the atrocity.
So today we get the whole deal, the full-length Hague "Catapult". It truly is laughable and a very wonderful find; not that anyone's going to drop it in their Murmur playlist as a direct replacement for the version recorded with Easter/Dixon, but it's a nice thing regardless.
*** EDIT *** I've replaced the targets with the final, best-ever mastering which supercedes anything you may have downloaded previously. Download it again for the full Hague-orama!
FLAC / MP3 (LAME 320k)
I took the version from Dime and ran it through my wringer, it's a pretty good (read: tremendous) improvement over the Dime version.
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